Liuren: our second topic is about the ASUS, I saw this news is especially interesting, this user took a dragon 2 million dollars to buy the ASUS notebook, continuous broke down twice and repaired or you can use the Dragon a friend chengyu speciality understand this week, said that the CPU is a beta version of the CPU, on this point, Asus has admitted that if the news is here, the ASUS notebook CPU problem, but they serve to ASUS for $ 5 million, Asus has reported that they were attributed to the delay by public security organs, this thing is very interesting, what reason public security organs to the custody of them?.
WANG Xiao-yi: We got the two reporters caught up to provide the recording, he spoke softly when they were recording, they said one, not so much, another said no, we want some more, Asus threat over there They would also be recorded into a. .
This recording is liuren: they provided to reporters? were hoping to be meditating? 3. suspicion of extortion is .7 of Haidian District in police custody, he taped to reporters are trying to prove what?.
WANG Xiao-yi: mainly to prove that their process of negotiations with the ASUS, ASUS recognize this CPU is a problem, indeed the CPU is problematic. .
That they have no liuren: listen to the audio?.
WANG Xiao-yi: maybe this is not the time to listen carefully. One man's mother said to save them, put recordings to the media. The two men inside one is the CDC's IT channel, that CPU is false. Some say this is himself put to. .
Liuren: through this recording is to prove that his replacement.
Old white: ASUS admit that this CPU is the beta version, but the sales departments, or ASUS provided or offered by these two individuals do not clear. .
Wang small Riesling: there is evidence that they sell ASUS Online original good CPU.
Old white: First of all be sure which ASUS is guilty in this. .
Liuren: from week chengyu speciality mothers of recordings, Asustek Computer China business group General Manager Yu Jia recognized Dragon a buy ASUS computer models for the Centrino 2. .0G CPU does have a problem, and ASUS intends to give a new Dragon a replacement of the CPU, but did not spot in Beijing. Michael Hui yu, said that the computer has a problem, a newcomer to the dealer Dragon company return to newcomers to ASUS engineers Lin Ying Chiu provides a chip that requires replacement. The first piece is a problem, the first piece is the vendor.
Old white: the first one is not a beta, then test version of who gave it, I basically judge ASUS is a problem, but I do not know the motive of these two individuals, if it is extortion, then 500 000, Asus might give, But the five million dollars, then joking ah, you want to earn this thing get so much money, ASUS may have committed a big mistake.But there's a saying that the competition is to manipulate this matter, the formal thought Asus will not give, give this matter revealed that ASUS in maintenance when using Test Edition CPU, this statement may be relatively credible, if the two men wanted to $ 5 million, it too has no social experience.
Liu Ren: If a competitor doing so, these two individuals willing to serve as cannon fodder it? This offense is still very heavy, will be sentenced, this is not fun, interests of third parties who will go to do it. .
Old white: legal things I look so, as I understand the point of view, does not constitute extortion, because they referred to the compensation, does not exclude the ASUS use government relations to make real the things, itself from a legal point of view, does not constitute, as I have 2 x so me 2000 times the amount of compensation for the legal support does not support: I don't know.
Zhang Dongwei: When you use the product if there are any flaws, if you go to parties to negotiate, this is a legitimate process to maintain your rights, your rights do not give me, how, then that is extortion. The inside is if you do not propose to me how the. .
Liuren: how to get there very much engaged in racketeering? how can both personal success!.
Peiyou Fu: It should be extortion, first of all I decide ASUS as a such a big business, this matter is not Asus deliberately. So these two men is someone behind him it was on these two individuals, I think can not tell. .
Liuren: do you think this story is absurd?.
Peiyou Fu: That is ridiculous. .
Dong Lu: I find it very strange that these two men to the 500 million u.s. dollars, how do you know should not give so much money. Asus is a report that has been providing recording. But Asus is a simple way to give you 10 million, 20 million, but Asus has not done so, so that the media must be reported. I think this thing is definitely someone yelled, not into the present.
Old white: Originally the site until there are other power issues negative reports, that was just covered her up did not come out. .
Dong Lu: Yeah, not a bad approach it spoils.
Liu Ren: Do you agree with the views of the old white, the two men to a third party interests Kangkaijiuyi? . .
Dong Lu: likely do not succeed, it was caught in..
WANG Xiao-yi: A newspaper in Shanghai, is Baoliao, Dove chocolate is a brand name, the transparent packaging which saw a worm in it, let the media put the 20,000 sold. Then I do not know, the media, primarily for speculation. .
Liuren: 3-4 years ago, the big bother being real estate reporter extortion, generally offer hundreds of thousands, I heard about in 3-4 wave reporters were the police seized the extortion of others. Old white said, no, it is extortion.
Old White: If I buy a house should not be regarded as blackmail, and if I buy, and find you fake, I can assure you ask for compensation, if not resolved I am looking for consumer association is justified. In other words, is that you do not give me 5 million I'll find a consumer association. .
Wangle: constitute extortion, first of all, what is the goal, the direct aim to finance illegal possession; on the other hand, for the purpose that you don't give me money, I would do this in line with the elements of the crime. But there's a limit of violations and crimes, being not more than 5 times, this is inappropriate, the compensation body can be priceless, this matter is typical of extortion. For example, one person when the good man, a man rushed to the hospital, but the families of those claims, this time he said the patient's family said you didn't give me a 1 million-5 I will not let you add, this becomes extortion. After this line. .
Guo Kaisen: I agree that the old white view more, there should be third-party participation. A normal person, you can propose a possible bargain, the opening is 500 million, this can not be justified. Asus makes the whole event is what sets the two men grasp the specific process of how to use the sets. .
Liuren: Asus is to catch them, so the planning good recording, only let the police catch them. Do you believe that they have third-party instructions, will have the reward?.
Guo Kaisen: They do not go in and go in there will be compensation, certain third parties to the two people a lot of compensation. .
Liuren: I think for those of you who do not want this money.
Zhang Dongwei: I believe this matter has three operations, may be played with fire. Time in a month, someone let me introduce ASUS PR company, how should I say ASUS ah. He said that recently someone has been engaged in Asus, and then several public relations firms think that was barely holding on to the Asus may have intolerable when it was reported. .
Liuren: I first look at the logic behind the one that is A company, they feel in the IBM Lenovo notebook sold, we don't have a lot of choices, ASUS sells so well, Asus has become the first choice. Everyone, including power events are made of A company, individual or CDC's channel Director, his IQ is not bad.
Zhang Dongwei: CDC contract last year that Longmou a notebook channel, pull the ads themselves to stay, how much money a year to the CDC, the client received in this period some of the money and then disappear, we all come to him, he ran the. After some time, he had a company has not received the money, went to the Zhongguancun collection, just see people, they took not let go, place to chat, catch Bureau yard. .
Liuren: this proves that this man is a quack doctor who is linked to A company, they said to engage in ASUS, he feels it is engaged, the asking price is relatively high, he can in-place-splitting, but Asus has outraged, a fish-net. Catch up and know that the last thing out, A company that I pay the Bill. Give out money later emigrated to Canada, etc..
Old White: According to the common sense of ordinary people, this event is the best company to be a confession out of A, then there is no negative image of the Asus. If A does not move out, ASUS is still a bad image. .
Zhangdongwei: this event, your ordinary consumers with ASUS notebook when broken, no matter how outraged you would bring a tape recorder to micro-filming machine? so he was premeditated, then one is ASUS's this thing can avoid.
Zhao Chao: I also think there should be A, the existence of a domestic Asus website hype this event, but the ASUS reaction is slow, they need to report the Taiwan side can handle, resulting in superior site for several days, causing far good ones. .
Huoju: I think that Yes, he said to the factory samples, is to use a software came I look it up using the software, it only shows the frequency, there is no way to know what test CPU for this notebook, you can not break your maintenance, this must have been a conspiracy. Second, Asus is using a beta version of the CPU is untrusted, Asus is so big companies don't need so little money is made in such a thing. They do mean that ASUS did with this beta, this is also the parts is not possible.
Old white: there are many brands which maintain the problem. .
Jinlei: I have a feeling that ASUS is not of itself, but this is ASUS's operating company, may actually be a carrier. Last year the media has been exposed to the Intel CPU for the beta, you are very sensitive, 500 million round this thing, because Intel has asked, who then uses the beta to kill no survivors. This is likely to exist in A company, they know it's sensitive, will open and 500 million.
Wang Feng: I think the ability of two ordinary consumers did not make things bigger. .
Wang small Riesling: I think that might not have A presence, because they have so much money, there is no reference to other people's comments went, then think of the things that a lot of fun to do, in fact, they have begun to decline.
Liu Ren: What do you think A is the enterprise? Is the front line or second line? . .
Guokaisen: might be a domestic.
Old white: no country to do a few notebooks, Haier will not do that. TCL has not such a big thing, I had a suspicious and BenQ, as Lenovo and Founder's no need, because there are small. .
Zhangdongwei: I think these manufacturers to fight, with the help of Chinese junk PR firm. There will be no contract disputes, involving CPU such a fitting, estimates will not.
Old White: I think it is possible to have this little business. .
Wangle: both really understand, when I discovered the notebook repair the problem, says the recently ASUS luck extort, we went to look at.
Old white: But there are some social experience, not shouted five million dollars in compensation. .
A contract is too zhangdongwei: Portal notebook channel Director, grandiose, and some manufacturers, bent over backwards doing great things.
Ren Yuan Yuan: I do feel Asus is right. .